IE Team Chat Schedule
After a great turnout this year, we are continuing our monthly online Expert Zone chats with the IE Team in 2009. Here is our schedule for the first half of next year:
January 22nd
February 19th
March 19th
April 23rd
May 21st
June 18th
All our chats start at 10.00 PST/18.00 UTC. These chats are a great opportunity to have your questions answered and hear from members of the IE product team. In case you miss the chat, a transcript will be published afterward and available online. Previous chat transcripts can be found here.
See you in the new year!
Allison Burnett
Program Manager
Comments
Anonymous
December 29, 2008
PingBack from http://www.codedstyle.com/ie-team-chat-schedule/Anonymous
December 29, 2008
why not make it standised like every 3rd Tuesday in the month ie team has chat makes it easier to trackAnonymous
December 29, 2008
This is off topic cos I don't where else to post. I'm using Windows XP but can't open my IE, what's the reason? Also when I tried to download IE7 using other browsers like Google Chrome, Mozilla Firefox and Opera the time taken for the download is horrendously slow. Took me at least over 2-3 hrs to download 14.7 MB of IE7. In one instance took me over 5 hrs to download 15+ MB only to find the file corrupt. Why is it so slow to download IE7 using other browsers? Is it a deliberate act to discourage users from downloading by those browsers? Please enlighten. Thanks & Happy New year!Anonymous
December 29, 2008
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December 29, 2008
@kjopc append a -private switch to your shortcut.Anonymous
December 29, 2008
i found a deficient on the microsoft explorer 7 and 8. if you be careful. Firefox browser can show animation gif icon of web sites next to the adress bar. But explorer 7 and 8 can"t this one. Explorer 7 and 8 deficient about this.Anonymous
December 29, 2008
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December 29, 2008
The latest IE8 partner build still doesn't show the favicon of the feeds correctly image:http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/3826/41710560op9.jpgAnonymous
December 29, 2008
@Mert Tan For once I am happy that IE has not implemented something the others have. Using animated gifs for favicons is extremely distracting and irritating.Anonymous
December 29, 2008
Yes, I second the suggestion to have those chats on a fixed day of the month. Makes it so much easier to remember. But if there's one thing I'd like to change most about IE, it's the time between releases. IE7 to IE8 is also 2.5+ years? Then IE9 will come in 2011/2012?Anonymous
December 30, 2008
anonymous: more than the time between releases, I'm annoyed by the fact Microsoft barely tries to push new versions to their users. One new version every 2 years is alright with me (although that won't help them catch up to other browsers), but at least ensure that within 2 years after a release, most people have moved to the latest major version. Nowadays, people can buy a new computer, and end up with Windows XP SP3 with IE6 rather than 7... That's not right.Anonymous
December 30, 2008
Detect for accessibility reasons text and background with the same color. This is common problem with a white text on black background ie browser color scheme. Also detect when a black and white image foreground color matches the IE user's defined background color scheme. This is a problem with black and white graphics where the foreground pixels are black and the background is transparent when displayed on a IE user defined white text on black background color scheme. This is problematic when reading many types of web pages with embedded graphs/formulas. Lastly, please consider letting an IE user turn off gradient color schemes for IE controls (button, toolbar, etc) as they are quite difficult to separate from the background when you have vision issues. This is more problematic as one gets older than 45 since vision moves towards seeing the larger picture and ignoring the finer details (i.e., lots of small graphic effects such as gradients, button shadows, button animations, rounded corners, too many lines, etc. add visual noise to the IE GUI and make it much less user friendly to read the web page).Anonymous
December 30, 2008
I'd like to request a floating time for the chat as well. I am never available at 1pm (EST/EDT) when the chats normally run. I always have to wait for the transcript (which doesn't reflect the conversation at all) and I can't ask questions. Can we either change the time up a bit? or have an option to pre-submit questions? e.g. window.resize events do not fire in any version of IE8 (B1,B2,PreRC1): Is this going to get fixed in time for the RTM or do we need to tell our clients not to upgrade to IE8? Thanks GillianAnonymous
December 30, 2008
Greg, did you try unchecking "Enable visual styles for buttons and controls in webpages"?Anonymous
December 30, 2008
@Gillian: I'd love to see a repro for your resize bug. As far as I know, this issue was fixed for the December build.Anonymous
December 30, 2008
Greg: I don't think IE should detect any potential color issues, or at least, I'd put it very low on the todo list. That'd waste developer time, complicate the code of IE (possibly affecting performances), and bring potential bugs or problems (like colors changing when they're not supposed to). If there's a problem with a specific site, then the site should be fixed, not the browser. By the way, talking about graphs and formulas, these should often ideally be made in SVG and MathML respectively, which IE doesn't support. If they were supported by IE and consequently used by web developers, then you wouldn't be having these issues. So maybe adding support for such technologies would be more of a priority than implementing quirky workarounds...Anonymous
December 30, 2008
@EricLaw, @Gillian - There has been no fix for the window.resize events not firing since IE8 Beta 1. This is a well known issue and has been brought up in IE chats, IE Feedback, and this blog several times for each release. I can assure you (as it is the first thing I test for each IE8 release), that it is as 100 % broken as it was when IE8 Beta 1 came out. It IS the precise reason why I can not allow IE8 in production as IE8 Partner Release 1 currently stands. Drop an iframe on a page, set the width/height to a percentage and set an onresize handler to the iframe, then resize the outer window frame. It will fire resize events in every other browser EXCEPT ANY VERSION OF IE8! steveAnonymous
December 30, 2008
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December 30, 2008
@steve Could you please create a testcase that we can see online? Best with steps to reproduce, expected and actual results. Or is there even a bug in the Connect Database? Do you have the Bug # then?Anonymous
December 30, 2008
Hey, where's the new IE6 VPC image? The one available for download is still expiring on Dec. 25th! Maybe you all should chat about that...Anonymous
December 30, 2008
@EricLaw { EricLaw [MSFT] (Expert): Q: Will support for MIME types like application/xhtml+xml and application/javascript be included? And will IE 8 include an XHTML parser? A: I'm not sure what you mean when you say "support for application/javascript"? IE8 is not an XHTML browser; it does include a number of HTML5 features, however. } coming from www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/chats/transcripts/08_0814_ez_ie8.mspx Valid media type for script elements (javascript) are "application/javascript" and "application/ecmascript" according to RFC 4329, sections 7 and 8 www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4329.txt IE 7 and IE 8 do not support and will not support those types. { valid types are "application/javascript" and "application/ecmascript". All modern JavaScript interpreters being implementations of ECMAScript, it seems like it would be best to use "application/ecmascript". Except that our good friend IE doesn't recognize them and ignores the script altogether if you use them. So once again, thanks to one more non-standard behavior of IE, we can't afford to follow the standard. } by Bertrand Le Roy, weblogs.asp.net/bleroy/archive/2007/09/17/should-i-use-a-type-attribute-on-script-tags.aspx Robin Lionheart also reported these absence of support in his HTML 4 Conformance tests www.robinlionheart.com/stds/html4/scripts The related bug 338278 was closed (by design) connect.microsoft.com/IE/feedback/ViewFeedback.aspx?FeedbackID=338278 GérardAnonymous
December 30, 2008
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December 30, 2008
@Gérard Talbot From the RFC 4329 memo: "This memo provides information for the Internet community. It does not specify an Internet standard of any kind."Anonymous
December 30, 2008
@Daniel, EricLaw: It turns out that there are technically "2" bugs, both to do with window.resize events not firing. The trick is the nesting. Top level documents will now (bug 1) fire the resize event, however nested iframes will NOT fire the resize event (bug 2). Bug #1 in Connect: https://connect.microsoft.com/IE/feedback/ViewFeedback.aspx?FeedbackID=364571 I've now added Bug #2 (a refined case of Bug#1) since the particular nesting is the issue for this bug (although one would have thought it was one in the same) https://connect.microsoft.com/IE/feedback/ViewFeedback.aspx?FeedbackID=390166 Since users of Connect can not download any of the test cases submitted to Connect, I've added a test case as an inline comment... save and test to see the bug in action. Thanks Steve Built a test case and uploaded it for the bug in Connect:Anonymous
December 30, 2008
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December 30, 2008
I have uploaded another testcase on top: www.gtalbot.org/BrowserBugsSection/MSIE8Bugs/application-javascript-ecmascript.html Firefox 3.0.5, Opera 9.63, Safari 3.2, Konqueror 4.1.1, Seamonkey 2.x, K-meleon 1.x, etc. pass that testcase; IE 8 does not. GérardAnonymous
December 30, 2008
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December 31, 2008
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January 02, 2009
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January 02, 2009
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January 02, 2009
Hello,tonight i did learn some,i did enjoy on the different programs.i think yahoo may have found me a program so far i like it i s, see that i have been taking notes more thank you Yahoo Yours Turly LiliaAnonymous
January 04, 2009
Using the MIME-types using HTTP response headers did work fine for me, no complaints here.Anonymous
January 04, 2009
@gabe : actually, it's the 3rd Thursday of every Month :)
