Beta 3 UX Improvements

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06/29/2006

Hi everybody, Max here. I posted before about "A New Look for IE” back when we released the beta 2 preview, and with the launch of beta 3, I wanted to take a moment to tell you about some of the new functionality we have added and changes we have made specifically related to your feedback.

First and foremost, let me thank everybody who has put the time and effort towards giving us feedback, whether it’s through our connect site, participating in our monthly online chats, talking with us at the conferences we attend, or even just commenting here on our blog; this helps us make the product better for you. Since beta 2, we’ve fixed many issues, and we continue to drive to releasing a more secure, reliable, easy to use browser with IE7.

New Icons

In response to feedback especially here on the blog and on Channel 9, we want to show you some new icons for beta 3.

We’ve lightened up the stop, refresh, and search icons, and we’ve changed the icons for the favourites center and add to favourites to give you back the good old favourites star.

Tab Reordering

The next big change we have made, which I’m super excited about as this was one of the more highly voted for issues on the connect site, is that in beta 3 you’re now able to reorder tabs via dragging!

Just drag the tab where you want it to go. This is a super convenient way to keep your tabs organized within your window.

Authenticated FTP

We also heard lots of feedback about FTP not working in IE7. In beta 2, anonymous FTP sites worked, however if the site required authentication, then one needed to either use windows explorer to get the familiar folder view of the FTP site, or use the somewhat arcane ftp://username:password\@ftp.site/ URL format in order to make it work in IE7. In beta 3, IE7 now prompts for credentials and gives an html view of the FTP site. If you’re interested in the folder view for the FTP site, simply choose the “Open FTP Site in Windows Explorer” menu entry from the Page menu.

Easy Access to Email

Earlier in the IE7 development cycle, we decided to remove the command bar icon that provided access directly to one’s email. Through our Customer Support Services division, we learned that the lack of this icon was in fact one of the top call generators for IE7 beta 2, and hence we’ve added this icon back. It’s now available to be put into your command bar through the customization menu. Right click on the command bar and select Customize Command Bar -> Add or Remove Commands.

A smaller change

There’s one more change I want to tell you about, first because I think it’s a great example of a small detail that makes a big difference in how much people enjoy using the browser, and secondly because it was expertly done by one of our new summer interns, Michael Ritche.

IE6 featured auto scaling of large images to fit the browser window, and it had this weird button that would show up over the top of the image after some indeterminate amount of time. It felt a little odd to use, and was somewhat unpredictable. In IE7, thanks to Michael, we’ve replaced this with a simple magnification cursor. Now, you can click to zoom the image to full size, and the image will be centered on where you clicked.

This was a great first change by Michael, and we’re sure there will be many more.

Jane has posted details of some UX improvements in the RSS experience on the RSS team blog. Check them out.

As we look towards finishing IE7 and starting in our next release, please keep the feedback coming! With your help we’ll continue to improve Internet Explorer.

Thanks,
Max Stevens
Lead Program Manager

Comments

Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Thanks for the info! :)
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Congratulations!
I've just downloaded and installed IE7 B3.
So far, so good - the new features work as promised. Keep up the good work, guys!
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
PingBack from http://www.darrenstraight.com/blog/2006/06/29/internet-explorer-7-beta-3-download/
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
"It felt a little odd to use, and was somewhat unpredictable. In IE7, thanks to Michael, we’ve replaced this with a simple magnification cursor."

In case no one else mentions it, this is a fantastic change.
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
yes! awesome ux changes.

just one more, please...

Just one more favor, Please set Internet Explorer to automatically decide how to open pop-ups, By Default!!
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Please add the option to IE 7 like Firefox has for when you right click on a wallpaper and make it your backround a bix opens letting set the size of it on your desktop and the color.
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
"Please set Internet Explorer to automatically decide how to open pop-ups, By Default!!"

Ditto! This is the first thing I have to set whenver I reinstall a new version of IE7.
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
In before "But the magnify cursor was in teh Firefox frist!!1" posts.
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
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Anonymous
June 29, 2006
I like the new icons and new functions. I noticed also that my "add mobile favorites" button has appropriately moved back on the page whereas under beta 2, it had been pushed onto a >> menu. Cool. Also, the overall experience seems snappier. Where there performance changes?
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
The 'star' buttons for Favorites and Add Favorites, don't seem very sharp.

Everything else is great!
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
CONGRATS!!!!!!

Finally someone on the IE Blog posts images as PNG!!!!!

now we can actually SEE them!!!!!!

Nice!
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
PingBack from http://www.solo-technology.com/blog/2006/06/29/ie-7-beta-3-released/
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
@Kevin: You can choose another view-source editor if you'd like. Personally, I use EditPad Pro, but Notepad2 is a favorite. Of course, you can use Visual Studio or a number of other IDEs as well.

In future versions, we hope to make this experience a bit better by default.
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
PingBack from http://malcom.xorg.pl/blog/archiwum/2006/06/29/internet-explorer-7-beta-3/
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Great work! It won't pull me away from Firefox (I use Linux a lot... and I LOVE Firefox), but it looks like you're well on your way toward releasing a real browser. Kudos to the whole team for what must be a monumental effort. The web dev world salutes you!
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Microsoft today released Beta 3 of Internet Explorer 7. The main changes are around the user interface,...
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
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Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Some Nice new features but there are still some glaring engine bugs that need fixing.

One of the most irritating issues for me as a developer is a bug with the Microsoft Filters when ClearType is turned on.

If one has a layer with some kind of MS Filter applied to it (for example - the Alpha Filter), and the end user has ClearType turned on, any text inside that layer is extremely distorted.

This is a huge annoyance - it simply MUST be fixed by the time IE7 goes final.
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
May I please ask this question?

In regards to this:

https://connect.microsoft.com/feedback/viewfeedback.aspx?FeedbackID=65110&siteid=136

It still has not been fixed. I'm still unable to actually reorder favorites located in sub-folders on the Links toolbar.

Also, since the reordering of tabs made it into IE7 when it was said that it was not going to be, is there any chance that the implementation of middle clicking a folder on the Links toolbar will open up all of those links in new tabs?
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
The RSS icon is STILL in the wrong place. You need to put it in the address bar like Safari, FireFox, and Opera do. It's a modal icon, guys.
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
is there anyway to restrict IE 7 to just a single window? will this mode me implemented at all in the options?
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
@Raul: No, you cannot force a single window, but you can reduce the number of Windows. Tools | Internet Options | General | Tab Settings options can reduce the number of Windows.
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Have a beer on me. Between tabs (especially with reordering!), QuickTabs and the printing improvements alone, this is the best update since IE4. And we've even got Channels... ehm... FEEDS, yeah, FEEDS back ;-)

I concur on the performance observations -- snappiness is up all 'round. At least on my machine, it feels about as fast as IE6, which means it runs circles around FireFox.
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Thanks for a great update.In the past i was using Opera then Firefox, but now i'm seriously switching back to new IE7 Beta 3. It's looks very good and only feature i am missing is option to add separator between favorites.
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
As a web developer I'm very happy that you're building ie 7. But seriously, hire a new UI designer, it's AWFUL!
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
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Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Hey,

Great job so far, but only one small detail I guess you forgot: pages that open in new windows are automatically resized to fit the whole IE screen size, but more conveniant is to let these pages to open in their own sizes (Firefox does this).

Thanks, keep it up!
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
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Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Jack Chapple ,

thanks for the feedback on ClearType and Filters. This is a known issue that we just fixed. You will not see this problem in the final release.

Cheers
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
I'm not yet sure if it is a good or a bad thing that IE's ux imitates Firefox (and yes, in some parts other 'alternative' browsers as well) more with every release.

Searchbox, tabbed browsing, feeds, cleaner ui ... those where all innovative things that developers of other brothers came up with and IE was simply lacking after 5 years of non-development and I guess the IE team had more or less no choice to copy them. And you guys did a good job in most parts.

But all these new 'minor' changes are almost spooky. The image rezise feature was one, that was made popular by IE6 (well, because if its flawed ui not really that popular) but was caopied and improved by other browsers. And now IE7 beta 3 uses an absolutely identical way to deal with image rezising as Firefox does.

Tab reordering, another feature that works and looks almost identical to the same feature Firefox has had a long time ago.

Including weak and seriously flawed copy of Mozilla's extenion and theme pages http://www.ieaddons.com I am really disappointed with IE7.

I know you guys had to catch up and I know it must have been quite hard. But I would have never thought that IE7's ux would copy THAT much from other browsers without actually improving much and without any kind of innovative NEW features.
Anonymous
June 29, 2006

Not sure when it happened, but I have become completely dependent on IE7. As I mentioned early today,...
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
This is looking pretty good.

Do you know when the Vista release of Beta 3 will be due out?
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Trevor Alexander Hermance:

You should be able to disable automatic image resizing by going to Tools->Internet Options->Advanced and unchecking "Enable automatic image resizing" (it's under Multimedia).
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
@Trevor: Tools | Internet Options | Advanced | Multimedia | Enable automatic image resizing. (This is available IE6 too).
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Why doesn't IE even this 3rd beta get the cute little icons in the url like FF does?

For example if you go to cnn.com or foxnews.com in FF there is their logo icon in the url address. Why doesn't IE handle this?

Thank you,
Bob
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
@Bob: These are called FavIcons, and they should work in IE7. They sometimes take a few moments to appear.
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
@Eric

Is there anyway you'd be able to address my previous comment? It's regarding a bug that was reported in connect and then closed due to it being fixed yet it is still not fixed in IE7 Beta 3.

Also I do believe that the feature request of being able to open up a group of tabs from a folder on the Links toolbar has been requested quite frequently.

Thank you Eric!
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
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Anonymous
June 29, 2006
@Kevin Daly - Eric mentioned it before, but it is possible to specify what editor is used for view source (though it's not easy). The easiest way to do this is to install the tweakUI powertoy, as it provides a basic interface to do this. Check it out from http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx

@Newtronic - There were in fact many performance changes, and we continue to make progress here as we move to the final release.

@Nocturnal - you can reorder favourites that are in sub folders on the links toolbar provided you do this through the favourites center. We have the bug in our internal system that you can't do this directly from the links toolbar, though I doubt we will be able to fix this for IE7. Hopefully the work around suits you
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
@Max

Ok, I must be doing something wrong. I'm going into favorites center, I'm going to the Link folder, then going into the sub-folder let's say it's called "Tech." I go ahead and re-arrange the links to how I'd like to view them. I close out the favorites center and then go to the folder that is located on the Links toolbar. I click on the folder, a list drops down. The list is still in alpha order and is not changed at all. Of course, if I go to the favorites center to check on this folder and the order it is in, it is in the exact order I have placed it. However, it doesn't affect the actual folder on the Links toolbar. Is that what you meant by it was fixed but that there is still a bug with this?
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Favicons are still broken for me too in Beta 3...
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
I removed IE7 Beta 3, did a repair installation of Windows, reinstalled IE7, and I still have the following problem:

When I open Internet Explorer, I have to click 3 times on the Favorites Center icon to get it to open it.

After it opens, I can return and open it with a single click.

If I close IE, then it's lather, rinse, repeat
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Microsoft's RSS team blog has this news.

"IE7 Beta 3 is here! We’ve snuck in some goodies in the feed...
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/defa...
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
@Max

Here is what I am talking about:

http://www.randomfix.com/images/fcenter.jpg - this is where you said to make the changes.

http://www.randomfix.com/images/links.jpg - this is where the changes should have taken place but it does not matter where I try to reorder the links, it doesn't affect the Link's toolbar sub-folders.
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Guys,

I have been running IE7 Beta flawlessly for the last month or so. I uninstalled it and downloaded Beta 3. Everything went smoothly except as soon as the browser window opens, it closes again.

I had to revert back to IE6 again(horrors). Other than this small issue all the changes look great!

HELP!
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Great improvements I must say, and the performance is definitely much more snappy than the previous Betas... I just hope the improvements continue.

A small glitch which has been overlooked I guess (I had filed a bug for this too)... The "Open a New Tab next to Current" does not work as intended. New tab is still opened at the end. Hope this gets fixed.

Otherwise a great application.
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Hey, cool! A pic of my home town! Interesting angle for the pic too (must have been taken by someone in or on one of the offices south of the tower).

The zoom feature looks like a siginificant improvement. I am always frustrated by accidently killing the old resize toolbar, and then playing the game of move & wait to get it back (always seems to take a few rounds), but oddly, you can't just turn it off or some sites start getting weird artifacts.
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
When will the 'Image Toolbar' make it's transition back into IE7??????? it was always nice to be able to just click on 'save' or 'print' on that floating toolbar instead of having to right-click on the picture to do it.

Please make it come back, i'm lost without it.

Also, i know firefox does this (i can't stand firefox), it would be nice if you could just 'right-click' on the webpage and instead of choosing 'refresh' choosing an option like 'reload images' or something like that which will reload all the images on a webpage that didn't load due to internet connection lag etc...
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
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June 29, 2006
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Anonymous
June 29, 2006
@ Max

Please don't leave me hanging. All that I ask is you review my previous post in which I posted screen shots of what I'm trying to accomplish and tell me if that is the bug that you are confirming or if I'm doing something wrong. Thank you very much Max.
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
@Nocturnal - ok, I understand your issue now, it's not what I thought you were talking about. Yes, I see your bug. I will log this into our database and investigate. I did try quickly and it seems like this bug also existed on IE6.

@Ronin - The "Open a new tab next to current" only applies when links are middle clicked or ctrl-clicked on the current page. They'll open to the right of the current tab. Watch for another blog post coming soon that describes all of our tab behaviour for more details.

@Xepol - I was wondering when somebody was going to be able to identify the image (although you never actually named the city...) I didn't take it from downtown though, I was actually pretty far away...
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
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June 29, 2006
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Anonymous
June 29, 2006
The whole point of dragable tabs is to get the tabs in the order you want. Well, if I save the tab group, it should also save the order, but instead it just tosses in the alphabetical ordering and restores that instead. You have to go into the favorites group and re-order them there, which makes the draggable tabs a truely wasted eye candy effort.

Of course, I am still lobbying to have the links toolbar let me re-order the contents of folders in my prefered order instead of ALWAYS having to accept the alphabetical ordering. This one really mystifies me since the IE team has had the code to do exactly this since nearly forever.

Ya, I'll make sure they are reported as actual bugs.

Is it my imagination, or is the toolbar bigger? Maybe it is just the new horizontal lines that make it appear that way. I hate the new horizontal lines btw, they clutter the interface in a very ugly way. I'll go digging for settings, but if there is no way to turn them off (as I expect), could you add a way in the next version?
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
I just installed IE 7.0 beta 3 and now program Microsoft CTF Loader(File Name: ctfmon.exe) is now running on startup and running on backtround. I know that this process was not running before. How do i stop Microsoft CTF Loader from starting at startup or to stop it
running on the background?
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
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Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Does Beta 3 give an option for links that "Open In New Window" to be opened in a new Tab instead? I'm getting tired in Beta 2 of having "New Window" weblinks open a new IE instance instead of adding a new tab.
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
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Anonymous
June 29, 2006
I have a problem, when I go to run IE 7 Beta 3 I get a short (under a second) Shadow of a browser window and then it closes, no error msg or anything it just goes away, Ctrl alt del doesn't show a copy of IE running
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
I still wish you could drag links onto a tab to have the page open in that tab.
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
"A smaller change

There’s one more change I want to tell you about, first because I think it’s a great example of a small detail that makes a big difference in how much people enjoy using the browser, and secondly because it was expertly done by one of our new summer interns, Michael Ritche."

Thank you so much, this is the best change ever. The thing that would show up to magnify the picture was so annoying. I really hated it. The new zoom feature works perfectly.

Only one small detail is that the magnifying glass does not show every time when a picture is first loaded. Sometimes it's just the mouse cursor that's shown when hovering over the picture. The feature still works perfectly in those cases, so it's only a little detail.

Keep up the good work!!
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
"A smaller change

There’s one more change I want to tell you about, first because I think it’s a great example of a small detail that makes a big difference in how much people enjoy using the browser, and secondly because it was expertly done by one of our new summer interns, Michael Ritche."

Thank you so much, this is the best change ever. The thing that would show up to magnify the picture was so annoying. I really hated it. The new zoom feature works perfectly.

Only one small detail is that the magnifying glass does not show every time when a picture is first loaded. Sometimes it's just the mouse cursor that's shown when hovering over the picture. The feature still works perfectly in those cases, so it's only a little detail.

Keep up the good work!!
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
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Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Michael-Thanks, somehow have missed that previously-has it been there long? :s
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
@ Max

Max,

As you were mentioning earlier about the re-order bug on the toolbar probably not being fixed in IE7... I was wondering since you now know of my main concern, is that something that can be fixed for IE7 or is this something that I can just stop hoping that a fix will come out for it in future releases of IE7?
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
This is really great to see guys, good job!
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Tab Re-Ordering!! Could you guy tell the Windows Explorer team how you did that! I have always wanted that in the Task Bar!
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
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Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Love the tab reordering, but I always find myself wanting to drag a tab out of IE to put it in its own new IE window (for side-by-side stuff). Any chance of getting that?
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
@Nocturnal - we'll take a look at it, but I can't promise anything at this point. If it doesn't make IE7 we'll certainly consider it for IE.next though!

@dberrett - thanks for the suggestion, we'll consider this for our next release as well.
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
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Anonymous
June 29, 2006
looks a billion times better... can't wait for this to go final so I'll feel good about putting it on my work laptop - by far and away the machine i use the most!
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Great job on the new beta! One thing I've noticed missing in IE7 thus far that I found very useful before is that when you right-click on the Back or Forward buttons a popup menu identical to the one that shows up when you click on its respective drop-down button appears. Can you please bring that back? It's much more convenient than having to move my mouse back to the drop down to get the menu.
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
I noticed now that the Ctrl+Q is alot more fuzzy. In Beta2 it seemed to be clear. Is anyone else having this issue?

Thanks
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Yay, Michael! :) Great work.
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
One more Q. Are those separator lines going to stay with future builds? It just screams Windows 98.
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Please make the tab context menu similar to Firefox's tab context menu. The close tab and new tab options are switched, causing me to close tabs that I did not intend to close.
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
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Anonymous
June 29, 2006
nice improve its a bit faster than before with pictures websides but it can be better.
also it would be nice if the feeds where easier to read... you have to go to favorites then click to use a tab to read them, in firefox you just click on the title which ones you want to read without having to scroll between them
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
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June 29, 2006
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Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Unfortunately, some bugs are still not fixed. On my computer, if I choose Page==>security report twice continually, the security report simply becomes a snapshot of top left corner of IE 7 window. It also crashed once when I click on my RSS list. RSS news still turn grey even if you didn't read the details for anyone of them .

Well, at least beta 3 works ok now and I have completely abandoned firefox.

Where is download manager improvement?!?!? I don't require IE team to write a download manager because the team will be sued by third parties. I just want to make IE work more closely with my download manager without having to introduce unstable poorly written add-ons or to modify critical system files.
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
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Anonymous
June 29, 2006
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Anonymous
June 29, 2006
the new beta 3 is great... good job.. however, my univ's website is not displaying well, i am not sure that is the issue of the university or the beta 3.

the address is: www.monash.edu.au
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Another vote for resizable searchbox, and I'm looking forward to "Find on this page" to be integrated into searchbox too. Hope it'll be something like searchbox of Windows Desktop Search (instantly list of results in pop-up windows).
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Omar-- Neoplanet uses IE's rendering engine. What "standards" do you think they support that IE doesn't?

JohnGalt-- F5 refreshes and ESC stops. Why bother using the mouse?
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
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Anonymous
June 29, 2006
WINDOW XP disk cleanup

I use Disk Cleanup today and notice something really weird read below

@C:WINDOWSsystem32occache.dll.-1071 is listed on Files to delete instead of download program files

the view button title is also replace with Wssystem32occ
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Love the UI changes, glad you're really listening to user feedback on this! I think most everything user's (the majority of them anyway) have complained about in the UI has been changed. There is one notable exception though, the ability to reorder all the menus/toolbars... I'd still really like to know why I can't put the menus above the address bar. I've been using IE7 since the initial beta and I've still yet to get used to the menu being below the address bar!
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
In Beta 1 and Beta 2, when opening a folder of links in the favorites center, then opening another folder, the first folder would automatically close. In beta 3, if you click a second, third or fourth etc. folder they all remain open (expanded). Is this a new design? It was much better, in my opinion, the old way.

Now I have to scroll or click the folder I do not want expanded any longer a second time.

I love all the improvements that have been made, keep up the great work!
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Eric, are you guys aware of this new bug:
If you go to favorites from the old classic menu, and if you try to delete one of your favorites the mouse cannot click on the buttons yes or no to delete.
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
I like the tab dragging function.
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Hey, I don't know if you've fixed this but occassionally when browsing the internet with a few tabs open it hogs ALOT of RAM. Sometimes almost 100,000k and the tabs and what-not occassionally "lagged". These bugs were from beta 2, just hope they get fixed cos IE7 > Firefox now :), keep up the good work team.
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
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Anonymous
June 29, 2006
please please live an option in for CLASSIC LOOK(file edit view...menus stay where they were in previous versions...ABOVE THE URL BAR....ABOVE NOT BELOW).Justtttttttttttttttt make it so it can be dragged up and down or smth.
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Hmm, since you guys brought up "new icons"... how about eliminating some of the old Windows 95-style icons that are still lurking in IE?

Specifically:
-Script error shows old exclamation icon
-Properties dialog boxes for pages, pictures, and hyperlinks show old icons that are of terrible quality
-Downloaded Program Files folder icon (and icons within)

Take a few minutes and look through all the icons and images in your DLLs, and replace the ones that are old! It shouldn't take very long and would help give IE7 a polished, finished look.
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
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Anonymous
June 29, 2006
What is Microsoft CTF Loader( Ctfmon.exe )? Is this a part of IE 7 beta 3 apparently this thing appeared when i install IE 7 beta 3. How do i remove this process and on startup?
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
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Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Having told everyone that Beta 3 is available for download, I was a little short on details.
The IE...
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Ya vamos por la beta 3 de Internet Explorer y pocas novedades en lo referente al motor de rendering. En el blog de IE podemos leer que los cambios mas significativos son el uso de nuevos iconos, reordenamiento de pestañas,...
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
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Anonymous
June 29, 2006
"Love the UI changes, glad you're really listening to user feedback on this! I think most everything user's (the majority of them anyway) have complained about in the UI has been changed. There is one notable exception though, the ability to reorder all the menus/toolbars... I'd still really like to know why I can't put the menus above the address bar. I've been using IE7 since the initial beta and I've still yet to get used to the menu being below the address bar! "

Because this is the new layout for all microsoft products. The File, edit, etc bar is not being used anymore. For Vista, the address bar is at the top (i don't think one can change it there). They programmed ie for XP this way to conform to the vista and new microsoft ui standard look.
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Thanks but here's some bugs ^^

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/5161/untitled17dg.png

have guys!
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
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Anonymous
June 29, 2006
All these comments are a mess, but it looks like they do get some attention, so I suppose I'll join the rest.

Do whatever you want with the UI, I can work around that.

(I, do however think it silly that we went through all that trouble about agreeing on what the RSS/Feed icon should look like so we don't confuse users; but IE has decided it belongs in the toolbar, not the address bar where everyone else seems to put it. That said, IE beat the Firefox team to getting their "feed view" right and they did better than Safari in making it useful. As long as it works, I'll be good.)

However, UI aside, I can't understand the disregard and disagreement over CSS2. It annoys me that I continue to write code that works fine for everyone else, but then need to tweak it just for IE6/7 to be alright.

I'm not an expert on it, but here's what I see:

* It seems that IE7 still fails to do anything but ignore adjacent sibling selectors and attribute selectors. It might even ignore direct child selectors still, but I haven't checked.

* Positioning absolutes in relatives still results in stuff in one place for Safari, Firefox, and Opera - and in another place for IE7. I don't know what's going on, but it's annoying.
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Firefox 1.5.0.4 (Check it out..
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/7093/ff3zm.png

Internet Explorer 7 Beta 3 (How it handles this page)
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/8886/ie0wl.png
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June 29, 2006
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June 29, 2006
Firefox
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/7093/ff3zm.png

IE 7
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/8886/ie0wl.png
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Nice improvements, snappiness is amazing, it makes firefox look bloated and dreadfully slow.

The only reason I now see for people to use firefox is CSS compliance. That, and religous zealotry.

Contrary to a lot of people's opinions, the new interface works perfectly. I really don't see how people can't find anything anymore. It takes an initial minute to get the fact that the menu is gone and that all the options are now under the toolbar buttons, but seriously, is that really such a big hurdle?

Good job people.
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Ok, just installed the new version, and umm, please, oh pleaseeeeeeeeeee lose those horizontal lines in the toolbars, it looks terrible, and, for some reason, my 'research' icon in the toolbar refuses to stay visible, it always wants to hide behind the '>>' arrows.
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June 29, 2006
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June 29, 2006
The UI still look like it was designed by people who never talked to each other. The Menu bar belongs at the top and should be there. I still have sites where the fonts dont render properly (fine in ie6 and other browers). IE7 is a huge improvement over IE6 but it still lags especially in regards to interface customisation and general interface user friendliness.
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June 29, 2006
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June 29, 2006
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June 29, 2006
I used Beta 2 of IE7. I found that it lost the flexibility of its look. You can customize much more in IE6 (changing the location of buttons, link bar, etc.). You can place the menu, links and address field in just two lines, but IE7 requires three lines. What I disliked about Firefox is also the bad flexibility. I did not want IE7 to follow it. I haven't tried the Beta 3 yet, but I hope it will be better.
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Still no incremental search. I wonder why you keep ignoring all negative reports because of this specific omision.
Without a better searching feature, other than the silly CTRL-F dialog, IE is almost useless for any serious web reader.
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
@donbt99

Good spot! Happens for me too. If you move off the favourites menu it then allows you to click the buttons.
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Why this blog is showed wrong with IE7 beta3 ?
look this image:
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/3056/longspace5xq.jpg
Anonymous
June 29, 2006
Gent's followed all troubleshooting steps but am still coming up with the below installation error. Any suggestions on how to fix this?

104.063: Num Ticks for Copying files : 24860
104.969: DoRegistryUpdates:UpdSpInstallFromInfSection Failed for ProductInstall.GlobalRegistryChanges.Install error: 0x5
104.969: INF_REGISTRY Failed
104.969: DoInstallation:DoRegistryUpdates failed
105.000: Access is denied.
105.031: Internet Explorer 7 installation did not complete.

Select 'OK' to undo the changes that have been made.
105.031: Starting process: C:WINDOWSie7beta3spuninstspuninst.exe /~ -q -z
158.031: Software Update Rollback has completed with return code 0xbc2. This rollback requires a reboot.
158.047: Internet Explorer 7 installation did not complete.
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June 30, 2006
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June 30, 2006
Congrats on a much improved IE7 release! Beta 3 is leaps and bounds better than the previous version. It feels snappier, and I like the slight UI changes. Great job everyone!
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
I upgraded to IE7 beta 3 from IE7 beta 2 on IBM R52, Win XP SP2. Now whenever I am starting my machine I get a lot of error message w.r.t files like br_funcs.exe, reg.exe, logman.exe, xcopy.exe. All messages are coming during startup only. If I ignore all the messages by closing them then my machine works fine. So I have to revert back to IE7 beta 2.
please help.
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
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Anonymous
June 30, 2006
@EricLaw: That's nice, but if such a work around exists, how hard is it to add a checkbox or something to put the menubar at the top? I'd prefer the ability to drag it, but it seems like a checkbox could turn that registry setting on/off rather easily and only have minimal risk of introducing new bugs.
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June 30, 2006
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June 30, 2006
PingBack from http://www.quickonlinetips.com/archives/2006/06/get-internet-explorer-7-beta-3/
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
Over at Microsoft&#8217;s IEBlog, General Manager Dean Hachamovitch yesterday announced the availability of Internet Explorer Beta 3:
This morning we released IE7 Beta 3 for Windows XP. This version includes improvements in reliability, compatibility,..
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
I'd like having an advanced option in order to disable the HTTP referrers.
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
I'm surprised no one mentioned one of the biggest improvements. It doesnt steal the focus anymore! In b2 if I hit+home to go to the homepage (google) the foucs stayed in the address bar. Now it actually moves to the page!

Good work. Enjoy it so far. Seems much faster than beta 2!
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
Anyone know how I can use the address bar to utilize googles "Im Feeling Lucky"

Example, if I type in the address bar, "Microsoft Canada", it will take me to the Microsoft Canada's website by using Googles I'm Feeling Lucky feature - very much like how it works in Firefox.

Thanks in advance,
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June 30, 2006
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June 30, 2006
Love it! The image resize magnifier is great! No more remnants of the gray square all over my images when I scroll down!

And to all the commenters about IE copying FireFox. Good grief! All I ever hear is "MS should make IE more like FireFox. It needs tabbed browsing, it needs integrated search, it needs RSS feeds, it needs this and that." Then MS does what you ask, and now it's, "MS is copying stuff that FireFox has had since the beginning." If you have a problem with MS copying or implementing features, that's fine. But don't be such hypocrites.
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
Can the command bar be moved to the top of the application yet?
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
OOPS: sorry for the double post. I mean a refrence to bug https://connect.microsoft.com/IE/feedback/ViewFeedback.aspx?FeedbackID=56117
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
EricLaw [MSFT] - Your suggestions - "@Mike: If IE fails at startup, try starting IE in no-addons mode using the link in the Accessories / System tools on the start menu. If that doesn't work, use the Internet Control Panel's Advanced Tab to restore IE to defaults."

Does not work for me. I have the same situation Mike had. The browser flashes open for a fraction of a second and closes. I then have to uninstall and go back to IE6... I tried the process twice with the same results.

I was doing fine with Beta 2 for the last month and a half... Can you provide other suggestions? I am also running Office 2007 Beta if that helps.

Is the link to IE7 Beta 2 still available, I can't bare the thought of using IE6 again...
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
EricLaw [MSFT] - Your suggestions - "@Mike: If IE fails at startup, try starting IE in no-addons mode using the link in the Accessories / System tools on the start menu. If that doesn't work, use the Internet Control Panel's Advanced Tab to restore IE to defaults."

Does not work for me. I have the same situation Mike had. The browser flashes open for a fraction of a second and closes. I then have to uninstall and go back to IE6... I tried the process twice with the same results.

I was doing fine with Beta 2 for the last month and a half... Can you provide other suggestions? I am also running Office 2007 Beta if that helps.

Is the link to IE7 Beta 2 still available, I can't bare the thought of using IE6 again...
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June 30, 2006
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June 30, 2006

Please could you give an option to make favourites (and also links from the links toolbar) open in a new tab from a standard left click. Also it would be nice if you could middle click the 'Home' button and it opens in a new tab.

Finally an option to retrieve previous tabs like in Firefox and Opera would be a lifesaver as I'm forever closing tabs by accident.
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
A CSS statement containing multiple #id.class selectors will only style the last item in the list.

So with:
#content_cell.class1, #content_cell.class2{background:black;}

class1 is ignored.

Details at http://jon.bandedartists.com/news/ie7bug
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
I could not find the appropriate setting, but is it possible to change the configuration so that when I shift-click a link (to open it in a new window) it opens in a new tab within the same window?

Thanks, Edward
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
Those minority standars are becoming more popular, is not only those standars is, also the CSS bug.

IE is already at 64% of usage by users, till when they have to wait to make IE support at least the CSS well? till they lose the 50% or more of the market?

They reacted and started to develop IE7 when they saw how popular firefox and the rest of the browsers were becoming. Maybe when they find out that they lost the 60% of the market which is the projection for this Year, they will wake up from the dream and stop thinking in pregnant birds.

Peace.
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
You are the newb, they don't make money with IE7 or are you saying that they will sell IE7 at release?

2nd you are the newb, everyday more websites are using CSS, because it makes the web look better and load faster, since you can do more without adding useless addons.

Sorry, sorry, but more sites are using it, and if you put in google, even in msn about IE rendering errors you will find countless threads related with it, so the minority is growing, IE as predicted if keep going the same way is going to lose the 60% of the content. Maybe we should start talking about the Firefoxnet.

FIX THIS, or please give me a link to get rid IE7 and the built in IE version from my windows xp.
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
Omar...

Please leave and don't come back. You are not welcome here... I'm tired of your poor use of grammar and tone. Go to firefox where you belong...
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
Quick question about teh zoom feature: how do you handle when the image is a hotlink (i.e. an HTML:a element wrapped around an HTML:img element, for instance)?
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
IE7 beta3 for XP does not install well on latest Windows Vista Beta2.

When will the Vista version be released?
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
Great. All the changes you listed only make IE better! Keep it up! ;)
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
There is a bug in which images are sometimes not drawn properly.

See "Beta 3: Images sometimes drawn improperly" in Microsoft Connect.
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June 30, 2006
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June 30, 2006
From the IE blog, IE7 Beta 3 has been released.&nbsp;
I popped it on my machine last night.&nbsp; So...
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June 30, 2006
The latest BETA is a great step up to out preforming the likes of Firefox and Opera, nice job Microsoft!

I Have a rather trival question - in the screenshot showing the new icons, the XP UI has really nice looking glossy skin, anyone know where I can download it from?
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
It's good to see that Microsoft cares about it's FTP client in IE.

Maybe it's just me, but "Authenticated FTP" doesn't seem to work any better in IE7 Beta 3 than it did in the previous betas.

Has anyone else been successful in getting the FTP to work in IE7B3?

Thanks,
Tim
10,617 days
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
please please please please bring back the 'show blocked popup' that was in the xp service pack 2 betas! this feature was so great and worked perfectly! can't you just uncomment that code or something?

let me give you a REAL WORLD example of why we need this feature.

pizzahut.com for example: when you place an online order, they popup a window that says when you ordered, how long it will take, and the time it will be there.

now, say you click order, ie tells you the popup was blocked, if you then click 'temporarily allow popups from this site' it refreshes the page! what does that do? it resends your order! not good!

this is not the only site that does stuff like this. show blocked popup was great, as well as ctrl-click to override the popup blocker! please bring it back and make the IE popup blocker the best one available!

https://connect.microsoft.com/IE/feedback/ViewFeedback.aspx?FeedbackID=54013
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June 30, 2006
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Anonymous
June 30, 2006
Omry,
Take a look at teh IE7 readiness toolkit at http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=D13EE10D-2718-47F1-AA86-1E32D526383D&displaylang=en
and the documentation on the IE developer center at http://msdn.microsoft.com/ie that does exactly that.

Thanks
-Dave Massy
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
@Omry Yadan

Re: "I understand the the new IE7 will be complient with web standards"

What?!?! Who did you hear this crud from? If you search this blog, and the Connect site, you'll see that the situation is far from that!

As far as Web Standards go, the only thing IE7 does to move closer to them is support a few more CSS options. (read: they fixed the worst of their CSS bugs)

Otherwise, it is the same old IE, no full dom support, no full ECMAScript support, no full CSS support, heck the full HTML support is still busted!

They say that in IE8 or later, these items "might" be addressed.

Now where is that Microsoft Salt container? You'll need a grain or two.
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
@EricLaw [MSFT] will a single window option be implemented in the final release?
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
http://blog.e-oskar.com ; ) and http://ie7.com ^^
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
@EricLaw [MSFT] -> IE7's fullscreen mode provides a deeply degraded experience. One that makes it useless.

You try putting your most used favorites into the link toolbar and then using fullscreen mode for a week.

You will get sick of pressing F11. The experience is one of the worst MS has ever provided. You have to keep switching in and out of fullscreen mode. It is just easier to stay out of fullscreen mode, thus negating any use it might have.

I'm not asking you to make the app more complicated, but rather, SIMPLIER. Remove a switch here that takes away the toolbars. Honestly, since you don't see the toolbars except when you want to, it really does not cause an issue to show them. However, NOT showing them means you have to keep moving in and out of, or rather NEVER entering fullscreen mode.

Why make a feature so hostile to normal usage that it renders that feature useless?

I think this is a case where the IE team needs to take a serous look a usability, I suspect that if you all switched to fullscreen only mode for a week you would hate it.

I assume that you do want fullscreen mode to be as useful and functional as non fullscreen mode yes? Or did you guys think we would want to keep turning it on and off all day?

Seriously, do some usability testing, you need it.
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
Oh, and I will register a bug for it, but the zoom feature doesn't work in framesets (even if the frame that the pic is in is JUST the pic itself)
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June 30, 2006
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June 30, 2006
Open in new tab next to current works just great, however closing that tab doesn't take me back to the previous focused tab, it goes to the last tab on the row. This is a very big annoyance, but so far it's the only one I've found.

Looking really good, guys. If you fix this little problem, I'll dump firefox.
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
@Xepol: If you still want all of the UI showing, why not just run maximized instead of in Full-screen mode?

As noted above, there are hundreds of millions of users of IE, and thus many different viewpoints.
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
@rjrapson: Try enabling Tools | Internet Options | Advanced | "Use most recent tab order when switching tabs with CTRL+Tab." I think this does what you're asking.
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
Hey, when I tries to access the page to give beta feedback, it is showing default 404 page.

http://www.microsoft.com/library/errorpages/smarterror.aspx?aspxerrorpath=/windows/ie/support/default.mspx

I like the new IE7. Couple of featres I would love to see.

1. In build feature-rich password management. This feature would help lots of users as day by day everybody has more and more userid passwords.

2. When you drop a link and drop on the new tab icon, open the link in new tab. As of now if you drop a link, it opens in the same window.
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
Nice job on the picture scaling. The old way was indeed odd. One minor little bug though. If you click on a link that brings up a picture that gets scaled, the cursor stays a normal cursor until you move off the picture and back onto it. I think the cursor should change immediately to the zoom cursor.
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
I have a question. If I'm accessing a secure page and if that page is getting some unsecured content a information bar popsup. How do I disable this? Its is really annoying and affects the page functionality as it resubmits the page.
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
Now, in beta 3, when i maximize the window, the status bar goes all the way down past the task bar so that the status bar and also the horizontal scroll is no longer visable since it is being hid by the Task Bar. Also it would be much help, once this issue is fixed to be able to open up IE in maximized mode.
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
Folks, Any update for support on not so old versions of Windows - Windows 2000?

FYI... Firefox, Opera, Yahoo Messenger all run on even older versions of Windows. Why has Microsoft given up on previous versions?
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June 30, 2006
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Anonymous
June 30, 2006
Hi, I hear a lot of cool stuff in IE7... I don't have it yet, but I would like to comment on this change in image handling:
Does the resize still shrinks the image into full view? I would love to have an option to shrink the image into full width (only) view! A lot of images have portrait orientation and get really small when shrinking... And now that almost everyone has a mouse with a roller, there shouldn't be any problem scrolling a little to see the rest of the image!
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
Everything looks good..
but the star and star-plus icons are little not matched around.....
thanks you..good work
and when Korean beta version comes...any has planned for public release real soon?
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
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Anonymous
June 30, 2006
whats about .htm, .html, .url icons?
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
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June 30, 2006
PingBack from http://wsuntech.com/esh/?p=146
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
@Santhosh: "If I'm accessing a secure page and if that page is getting some unsecured content a information bar popsup. How do I disable this?"

This is a security risk, and you should ask the site to fix their bug. If you are really want to ignore the security problem, choose "Enable" for the "Show Mixed Content" setting in Tools | Internet Options | Security | Internet | Custom...

@M: No update. We do not plan to ship IE7 for Windows 2000 for the many reasons described here previously. Sorry.

@Charlie: We're looking at the IDN issue, thanks!
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
IE is already at 64% of usage by users, till when they have to wait to make IE support at least the CSS well? till they lose the 50% or more of the market?

Users aren't switching because of CSS. The vast majority of Firefox idiots who post on this blog are complaining about GUI features, not CSS. "I switched to firefox because the tabs are better" "I switched to firefox because I like the ad blocker addon" that's what user's are saying. The end user couldn't give a flying (insert whatever you like here) about standards. They just want it to work. Most sites are designed to work in IE. That's all users care about. You're a developer, you like standards. User's couldn't care less. The sooner you understand that, the better off you'll be. It's like when I was working for a company about a year ago and I was trying to convince them to convert an app from C++ to C# because that's the "new way to go" in programming. I convinced the developers no problem. When I made the pitch to the sales team, the response I got is "do you think my 10 year old son sitting at his computer cares whether it's C++ or C#? He just wants it to work." That's the mentality of users. Whether it is standard, or 100% microsoft specific. If the website works (which almost all websites work in IE6) that's what they care about. MS market share has almost nothing to do with standards.

If you want to insult IE, at least get your facts straight.
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
It's cute how you made me scroll down through four pages of blank space in between the "new icons" paragraph and the first image. This is due to the image being too wide for the screen with all the links on the right. I guess no one uses 1024x768 anymore.
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
Eric, thanks for the tip on how to configure the info popup regd mixed content. Is it possible to post a list of features IE team is considering for future releases?

As I mentioned, password management and inbuild adblock features are the two reasons I use firefox sometimes. If these could be added to IE, I would really love it.

Google and everybody else are getting together to support Firefox over IE. Unless IE team updates the browser with new features, more people would migrate towards Firefox.
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
@The View Master - I didn't see any problems with Full Screen on my computer with IE7b3, it all works perfectly, the only thing that didn't autohide was the status bar, however, everything looked all clean and in working order.
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
reply to : http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/06/29/650098.aspx#652620

Kenny,
call it wishful thinking, but it does seem the MS is starting to care about standards, and the reason, in my opinion, that MS is finally starting to eat what they cooked with Explorer.
the only way out, in the long term, is to stick to the standards.
personaly I don't use Windows or Explorer, but I still think I will benefit from that apparent shift in perspective.
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
Santhosh: You cann block lots of advertising using the Restricted sites zone. Just put the zone of the advertizer (like *.ads.com) in the restrictd zone and whammo, no ads.
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/03/15/552246.aspx

Other than that, you can always use the Hosts file.
Anonymous
June 30, 2006
Great job with beta3 guys :) , but i still didn't see "restore last open tab" option , yes i know there is "open these next time..." warning dialog when i try close IE , but what when IE crash ?

Like i remember in one pre-beta2 build i see "restore last tab" options , and after crash i can right clik on tab bar and from menu restore my last opened page "tab"

Any plan to restore this features in RC/Final build ?

Regards
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June 30, 2006
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July 01, 2006
Address window is of fixed size... getting annoying for too short or too long URLs.
I'd like a variable length - well, up to two lines since some redirects are a long string of 'meaningless' characters.

Left to right order made sense in pen and paper days. Now, for the most right handed users, some most often commands (Back, Open In New Tab, Save) would be more convenient on the Upper Top Right corner of the IE7 Window.
A personal floating bar where one could drag whatever buttons one needs would be a +.
Anonymous
July 01, 2006
Microsoft has released beta 3 of Internet Explorer 7, and you can get it here. As you'd expect from a third beta, it's got a bunch of bug fixes, but there are also some changes to the way it looks....
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July 01, 2006
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Anonymous
July 01, 2006
Ok, you still need to do more with website compatibility, some sites are still not correctly viewed.

Thanks
Anonymous
July 01, 2006
Have you guys compared your UI with that of Opera? The tabbed browsing features in Opera are miles ahead of anything else out there, IMO. I love the fact that each tab has its own address bar, search bar, etc. It just feels right that way for some reason.

Also, the page scaling features in Opera work much better, and their "fit page to window" option is great.

Why not try to incorporate some of these great features in IE? Right now I swith back and forth between Opera and IE, with Opera being my main browser. I used to use IE exclusively, until Opera 8 came out and won me over.
Anonymous
July 01, 2006
One problem that I have consistantly faced is if more than one tab is open, as soon as I exit IE, an error pops up saying that an instruction at 0x...34(or something) tried to access memory location 0x00000004.

Also, an "array bounds exceeded" error pops up every now and then.

btw, I am using Google toolbar (latest beta) which specifically mentions IE7 support.

Also, I have never been able to log in to the connect website.
Is that a bug.
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July 01, 2006
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Anonymous
July 01, 2006
Thanks for letting me know.
Also there is a bug in disk cleanup.
Instead of showing "Downloaded Program Files" at the top of the list, it shows:
"@C:WindowsSystem32occache.dll,-..."
The button on the lower right is also messed up, it says:
"WSsystem32occ"
Anonymous
July 01, 2006
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Anonymous
July 01, 2006
Mozilla Firefox alredy can these features. So hurry up Microsoft...
Anonymous
July 01, 2006
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Anonymous
July 01, 2006
@codemaster.

Agreed. But I think you have kind of let the point slip right by you. I agree that the average user doesn't give a hoot about web standards; most don't even have the first clue about what they are. But Microsoft's IE is LOSING market share to browsers that DO have good CSS support. So regardless of WHY it's losing market share, IE is losing it and quite rapidly. If IE was to step into the minority, what then? In order to maintain the majority of the market share, Microsoft will eventually be forced into compliance with web standards whether they truly like it or not; the opposing market share is simply too large to ignore. The problem is Microsoft is being stubborn about it, but demand is the name of the game.
Anonymous
July 01, 2006
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Anonymous
July 01, 2006
Just a small suggestion regarding the handling of attached files in rss-feeds:

I use feeds in IE7 to automatically get the newest podcasts downloaded onto my harddrive. Unfortunately, I have to check every single feed for new podcast releases and manually save the (already downloaded) file to my sync folder. I really would like to see an option, which would allow me to specify a folder into which every new podcast file is automatically copied.
I'd than only have to sync my MP3 player with that given folder instead of manually "collecting" each file.

Keep up the good work,
Tom
Anonymous
July 01, 2006
"There’s one more change I want to tell you about, first because I think it’s a great example of a small detail that makes a big difference in how much people enjoy using the browser, and secondly because it was expertly done by one of our new summer interns, Michael Ritche."

I think I've got the perfect IE 7 slogan!

"IE 7: Stuff Firefox Had Two Years Ago, Or Something"

You can contact me for licensing information.
Anonymous
July 01, 2006
IE 7 & Digg - Not behaving properly?

A minor problem...is it just me???:
Go to the 'comments' in any Digg article. Look for a 'buried' comment and select 'Show Comment'... the comment slides open and then the text suddenly disappears?? Why?
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July 01, 2006
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Anonymous
July 01, 2006
I wonder why Max Stevens bothered to blog it out since Mozilla FireFox already have all those features included in their browser which released in year 2005. The most funny thing I find in the post is he claimed that the changes was made specifically related to beta testers' feedbacks.
Anonymous
July 01, 2006
@Codemaster and @Heri

When it comes to CSS support, it's not about whether it directly drives user to switch or not. I think the more important aspect is that it creates a "hostile" attitude from websites creators toward IE and in turn, they spread these hostile messages to their users. eg. They tell them to switch to Firefox.

So... FULL webstandard support might not directly drives regular users to switch, it sure does generate that hostility toward IE which many regular users are hearing from website creators.
Anonymous
July 01, 2006
What's up with ieframe.dll bitmap #215?
It's incorrectly blended aganist magenta.

Will it be fixed? Or just dropped?
Where is it used? Other bitmaps in that file are bit broken too!

That's also true for Vista' shell32.dll
Anonymous
July 02, 2006
Max:

You ask "What happens if you just open the FTP site starting in Windows Explorer rather than IE. Does it work like you'd expect?"

The answer is "NO". If I try to open the ftp site just using Windows Explorer (as I used to be able to do prior to installing Beta 3), the only thing that happens is IE 7 B3 now launches automatically, and I get the flat web view of the file directory for the ftp site in IE, which the same request to "click Page" and of course, when I do that and select "Open FTP Site in Windows Explorer" I get the same message, which is that the site can't be viewed.

I have tried uninstalling, reinstalling, reverting back to IE 7 B2, and finally back to IE 6, and I find that it works the way it's supposed to work in IE 6, works in IE 7 Beta 2, but IE 7 Beta 3 simply does not allow a "folder" view of any of the files at my ftp site.

The weird thing is that I did get it to work in Beta 3 on one of my desktop machines. I have no idea what the difference is between the two machines in terms of set up as it would relate to IE 7, but I will try to duplicate the settings of my desktop on which I got it to work to see if there's something else which is getting in the way.

I guess what I'll try now is to disable all startup programs and then work backwards by adding them back in, or perhaps disabling Norton Antivirus. Otherwise, I can't imagine what's getting in the way of FTP working in folder view in IE 7 Beta 3.
Anonymous
July 02, 2006
This new beta certainly is an improvement as far as the UI is concerned.

Any chance of a blog posting about whether you've worked to resolve any CSS regressions? I believe several bugs have been found in connection with the useful CSS fixes you made for Beta2, and it would be good to seek reassurance whether those regressions are being addressed, or have been.

One poster above noted about min-height et al being fixed for images, so it sounds like some work has been done. Could you post on this, please?
Anonymous
July 02, 2006
@ EricLaw [MSFT]

"IE and the desktop shell have been split. You can no longer browse the web in Windows Explorer, and you cannot browse your hard drive in Internet Explorer. (Internally, some technology is still shared.) This is primarily a security change, although there were other reasons to make the split. Please file a bug on the issue with printing. The User-Agent workaround for WellsFargo will still work, but should not be needed shortly as they are updating their site."

This is an interesting comment and surely represents a huge policy shift, following the initial merger of IE [iexplore] and (Windows) Explorer [explorer] back in IE4.

Can you post further info about this? Sounds interesting!
Anonymous
July 02, 2006

To be totally fair, if you need to use full screen mode because of the need for more screen estate, then you probably have a monitor that is not up to par, or you live in a "not as fortunate" area. :(

*** BUT THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR REDUCED FUNCTIONALITY IN FULL SCREEN MODE! ***

U dig,
Peace!
Anonymous
July 02, 2006
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Anonymous
July 02, 2006
After all that, I just remembered that I forgot something - darn typical, lol. I remember a while ago that you guys said that where looking into ways of making the tab a person is currently on more visible (bolding the text, etc.), however I cannot see any noticable changes in this respect. So essentially, I was just wondering if this is something that you are still working on?

Thanks.
Anonymous
July 02, 2006
@Codemastr: Sorry... We gotta ship sometime. This simply didn't make the bar.

I'd agree with that statement, if I and others hadn't been suggesting it for several months now! You're right, it's too late now. However, it wasn't too late when we first asked and were ignored. To date, no one has explained why this ability was REMOVED since IE6.
Anonymous
July 02, 2006
@Naeco

You're right, there are people that say "use Firefox" on their websites. I on the other hand have "use IE." I work for a company that designs web applications, all of their software is designed for IE, not Firefox. So you're right, there are those hostile against IE and telling people to switch if they want to view their sites. But on the flipside, there are those like myself who do the opposite. I've even made a few sites where you couldn't view the site in Firefox because it would redirect you to the IE download link. I've certainly not done the research to prove these two sides cancel eachother out, but I doubt you've done the research to prove more people hate IE than hate Firefox.
Anonymous
July 02, 2006
'Feeds' is mislabeled 'Feeds(J)' when showing all text labels on the command bar:

http://www.hidebehind.com/D7B5BF86
Anonymous
July 02, 2006
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Anonymous
July 02, 2006
Why is it if I right-click on a URL that sometimes for a tab it's T and other's it's B. If it's a T I can just press T and the tab opens. If it happens to be B then I have to press B and then enter.
Anonymous
July 02, 2006
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July 02, 2006
@ Codemastr

I read your comment again and realized you were referring to web applications, which usually require Active X (therefore IE-only). My bad. But I am of the opinion that they then shouldn’t be on the web anyways. Anyways, sorry about that.
Anonymous
July 02, 2006
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Anonymous
July 02, 2006
I missed this due to my mostly disconnected state during the weekend, but on Friday (our time) we released...
Anonymous
July 02, 2006
@ Walter

Well if Codemastr is referring to server side applications which use PHP, ASP, CGI, Ruby, etc. then making the website IE-only is completely uncalled for (which is what I thought he meant when I wrote my comment before last). But then I re-read his comment and thought he may have been referring to programs which are delivered through Active X, which would explain the IE-only bit. I guess Codemastr will have to clarify whether he meant Active X applications or server side. :?
Anonymous
July 02, 2006
One feature still missing in IE7 B3, mouse gesture.
It would be a better browser if you include mouse gesture feature.
Overall, IE7 is my favorite browser.
Good work.
Anonymous
July 02, 2006
It's be fine, if start of delete browsing history and other privacy information is automatical on close IE.
Example: Mozilla 2.
Anonymous
July 02, 2006
Tab moving is great, however it'd much more useful if it'd be possible to move a tab out of one Internet Explorer window and drag into another.

If that's the last tab of IE, the IE should close.

Normally that is needed, when an app opens a new browser, and you don't need that new browser - you want to have everything in one.
Anonymous
July 02, 2006
The error message is;

‘Windows cannot access the specified device, path or file. You may not have the appropriate permissions to access the item.’
Anonymous
July 02, 2006
Geez people, what r u all talking about. This magnification feature was stolen from Firefox, it wasn't invented by MS. Please... nothing but stolen improvements.
Anonymous
July 02, 2006
PingBack from http://blog.dedicating.org/?p=161
Anonymous
July 02, 2006
@Voltus: Get the Mouse Gestures Add-on: http://www.codeproject.com/atl/MouseGestures.asp

@Geez: Yeah, and Firefox stole it from the Windows Picture and Fax viewer, that stole it from some other app that stole it from <etc etc etc etc etc> that stole it from the original GUI interfaces invented at Xerox Parc in the 1960s. Everybody copies everybody else. Who cares?
Anonymous
July 03, 2006
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Anonymous
July 03, 2006
@dcveeneman

The skin is "Royale". Its an official MS theme available for XP. You can get it from MS site I think. I too have the same theme on my laptop. It looks really nice.
Anonymous
July 03, 2006
I've got a serious problem with 7 - the zoom hijacked the change text size behavior of 6 and every other browser. IOW, ctrl-mouse wheel used to change the text size, now it zooms (and makes the whole page bigger, meaning left-right scrolling.)

There appears to be no keyboard/kb+mouse shortcut to change text size. I can't deal with that.

I'm getting older, and my eyes aren't what they used to be. I generally have to change fonts to Larger and sometimes Largest, as most web designers seem to have great eyesight and their normal fonts are just too small for me. Ctrl-Wheelup was my most used shortcut, and now it's useless. Zoom is great, but can't we have both?
Anonymous
July 03, 2006
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July 03, 2006
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Anonymous
July 03, 2006
great, it looks a little nicer...
when is IE going to be more compliant with web standards? i would rather the browser be uglier at this point but have it work correctly with web sites. maybe i'm wrong, i'm not a programmer, but making something that works seems like it should one of the first items. every single website i do looks and works fine in: firefox, netscape, safari, flock, icab, shiira, and camino, then along comes IE and its fix it for IE and break it for everything else.
Anonymous
July 03, 2006
Welcome to my website!
Anonymous
July 03, 2006
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Anonymous
July 03, 2006
Beta 3 is a definate improvement but some items need to be noted.

Sometimes the response is quite slow and even appears to "stick." Will that be addressed in the production version?
Anonymous
July 03, 2006
I would like to be able to put the old fashioned menu bar above the address bar.
Anonymous
July 03, 2006
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Anonymous
July 03, 2006
@Joe Edwards: See the script here: http://www.fiddlertool.com/dl/IE7MenuAtTop.reg
Anonymous
July 03, 2006
@Carl-- The workaround for FTP is really simple: Just use Windows Explorer for FTP view. Who's really using FTP anymore anyway?

"I'm tempted to just start pushing everyone I know to switch to linux/firefox/open office.. At least then there are no "mystery" changes"

Hahahahahahahaha... have you ever installed Linux? I encourage you to give it a try. EVERYTHING is a mystery on that OS until you spend a few thousand hours becoming a guru.
Anonymous
July 03, 2006
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Anonymous
July 03, 2006
@JohnGalt:
"The down arrow for your back button is under the forward button. Anyone else notice how stupid this is? If you watn to confuse a user, you're doing a great job!"
-------------------------

That down arrow isn't just for the back button; if you weren't in such a hurry to post here with your bile, you might have realized that before shooting your mouth off.

Microsoft has combined the down arrows for back and forward into one navigation stack control, which I think is a great improvement over the traditional way that this has been done.
Anonymous
July 03, 2006
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July 03, 2006
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Anonymous
July 03, 2006
I have a problem. When i start installation of IE Beta 3 a message tell me IE 7 is already installated. Why ?
Anonymous
July 04, 2006
Ever since I downloaded IE 7.0, my blog and evryones else's at MSN Spaces take a long time to load. Is this an IE problem or a Space problem?
Anonymous
July 04, 2006
Please remove the new unnecessary separator lines between 3-rd party toolbars again! They are ugly and are wasting screen space.

The 3-rd party toolbar part of the UI still flickers when I am closing tabs.

Viktor
Anonymous
July 04, 2006
PingBack from http://www.bloguzman.com/?p=169
Anonymous
July 04, 2006
I wish possibility to drag the tabs (or just URL) into another IE window
Anonymous
July 04, 2006
Where can we find a changelog with the rendering engine fixes ?
Anonymous
July 04, 2006
It would be nice if the address bar could also become a loading bar with a colour (such as blue) gradually filling it up. This would mean you could remove the loading bar from the status bar.

Adding a sound on/off button on the status bar would be handy too, rather than combing go/stop and having refresh seperate.
Anonymous
July 04, 2006
@Viktor: We've recently taken some changes to reduce flicker on tab closure.
Anonymous
July 04, 2006
Is there any plan to implement mouse gestures in IE7?
Anonymous
July 04, 2006
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Anonymous
July 04, 2006
@EricLaw: Thanks for your answer. The UI flickering could be reduced by switching to another toolbar instance and then by closing the original toolbar in the background.

I have a new suggestion for the new separator lines:

Show them only if the toolbars are not locked similar to the left edge which also disappears when the user locks the toolbars.

Personally I do not like the new separator lines. They make the UI more cluttered in my opinion.
Anonymous
July 05, 2006
I noticed that it is not possible to show 3-rd party toolbars in full screen mode any more like in IE6.

EricLaw wrote
>I've seen the opposite feedback, where users don't want toolbars in Full-screen mode.

I aggree, but IE6 maintained a separate list of active toolbars in full-screen mode for that reason. It would be very useful to have this functionality back in IE7.
Anonymous
July 05, 2006
tabs and favorite are not displaying the websites logo, before it was working fine, now it can't even display the logo. How do i fix this?
Anonymous
July 05, 2006
@Amerzone: "Is there any plan to implement mouse gestures in IE7?"

No, but there's already an ~excellent~ addon for this. See: http://www.codeproject.com/atl/MouseGestures.asp
Anonymous
July 05, 2006
Why on earth are the Stop & Refresh buttons moved away from the main icon group, and even worse, made smaller than them? It's poor for overall usability as they aren't easy to locate quickly. It's made even worse if you use add-on toolbars or choose to display the 'classic' menu bar.
Anonymous
July 05, 2006
game kid: its not that firefox did it first, its just that its advertised here as an amazing change when its quite obviously 'inspired' off other competition browsers :p
Anonymous
July 05, 2006
@shawnz: "its just that its advertised here as an amazing change"

Uh, actually the word he used was "small".
Anonymous
July 05, 2006
At some point in Beta 2, the RSS functionality totally stopped working and it continues not to work. IE just forgot how to deal with RSS both with the feed detection icon and feeds already added. It usually just displays the XML code. I put this in Connect awhile back, but I was wondering if anyone had any ideas.
Anonymous
July 05, 2006
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Anonymous
July 05, 2006
again website icon on address bar, tabs, favorite, history, is not showing at all. I'm stuck with Internet Explorer icon. I see the website icon on temporary internet files but they are not displayed on favorite, address bar, tabs.
Anonymous
July 05, 2006
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July 05, 2006
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Anonymous
July 05, 2006
Implementing incremental search is so hard, we have to wait for a future IE version (10 yrs?). Right popup handling is a "very very hard problem" too.

Sorry folks but if IE7 is the best you can do I feel that something is going very wrong with IE dev team.
Anonymous
July 05, 2006
@Ted Nicks
>Implementing incremental search is so hard ...

I have implemented incremental search as an IE plug-in over one year ago ;-)
Anonymous
July 05, 2006
@Victor Krammer
>I have implemented incremental search as an IE plug-in over one year ago ;-)

I did something similar using javascript to extend MS own "find in page" implementation, but that's not the point.
Searching has always been one of Internet Explorer's weakest parts. And now, after so many years, IE dev team says that they have no time to fix it!
Anonymous
July 06, 2006
I don't know if this has been posted before but when I click on the new tab button, IE just closes. Am I doing something wrong?
Anonymous
July 06, 2006
EricLaw

>Popup Blocker: This is a very very hard problem, whether you believe it or not.<

It's not rocket science, it's your browser, which you should know like the back of your hand.

There have been probably hundreds of comments at least on the horrible UI yet we're supposed to believe it's "very very hard" to fix it? Some of the most useful features were in IE6 yet you took them out. Why?

Full screen mode is a mess, why even bother going into it, or is that your intention, to discourage users from hitting the F11 key? Where is the menu bar in full screen, why did you remove autohide of the Windows taskbar and the favorites folder on the left side screen? Who wants to keep switching back and forth just to do the basics?

It makes no sense but I suppose it's all too "very very hard". Sorry to make a joke of it but that's what your browser is becoming. It may be free but there's still millions of dollars involved from a business standpoint and Microsoft is going to lose that if you keep ignoring what users are trying to tell you, the UI needs work. Not in 10 years but now.
Anonymous
July 06, 2006
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Anonymous
July 06, 2006
Bug:

There is a problem with javascript, the page reloads itself all the time in IE7, works fine in IE6.

The script:
<body xmlns:EPiServer="http://schemas.episerver.com" onResize="window.location.reload()">
Anonymous
July 06, 2006
Great,thx for the feedbak your giving

Suggestion

Can you add dragging out a tab,creates a new IE window? and viceversa,and automatically merge all seperate IE windows on taskbar to tabs?

This is fun,and could be a godlike feature
Anonymous
July 06, 2006
@EricLaw [MSFT]

In response to:

@Miniplayer.info: So when you start IE in add-on free mode, it still shuts down on startup? Interesting. Is there any error message, or is it just gone?

Still shuts down on start-up, no error message... it is just gone. And does not appear in task manager.
Anonymous
July 06, 2006
@Carl - Anonymous FTP is a good thing, and will stay that way for a long time. But, for anything requiring some level of security, SFTP is much better.

Browsers have always been poor FTP clients, even IE's Explorer view.

Maybe you could install something like SftpDrive if you need a server mounted as a filesystem.
Anonymous
July 06, 2006
Please could you simply base your browser on Opera. Opera with wider support would be the best browser, it has every feature IE has and more> RSS feeds, built in bittorrent support, tab preview pains, mouse gestures, ability to close tabs without focusing them and is the faster than IE & FF.

If it wasn't for the fact that so many websites require IE I would simply use just Opera. Actually that is not strictly speak true, there is a great java debugger plug-in for Firefox which is necessary for work but for general browsing Opera is much better.

I noticed someones comment on IE 7 b3 being faster than Firefox. My experience is the exact opposite with Opera 9 followed by Firefox followed by IE7 B3 and the speed different is very significant. It is very noticeable on my Pentium Duo and Althon64 and these are not slow machines.

I second the UI thing. Office 2007 looks great, so does Vista, MSN Live also, ...then IE7 is actually a contender for looking worse than IE6 I really think you should consider redseigning the tab bar!

Also I believe you still have not fixed the zoom bug that was in B1.

To see this go to: http://www.csszengarden.com/?cssfile=/194/194.css&page=0

Try zooming to 150% and see the graphical flaws. No do the same in Opera 9 and you will see how the zoom function should work!
Anonymous
July 06, 2006
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Anonymous
July 06, 2006
Say guys. What exactly is up with the error in PNG gamma correction:
https://connect.microsoft.com/IE/feedback/ViewFeedback.aspx?FeedbackID=56808

It happens not just on some transparent PNG files, but on EVERY PNG file. It can be a painful obstacle at webdesign that PNG files do not look like they should. Personally I think it's a worse problem then the lack of support for transparency was in IE6.
Anonymous
July 06, 2006
Bug: When the menu bar is enabled, the first tab has a different menu size then all the other tabs, making the menu bar and the entire tabs/page jump around when switching.
Anonymous
July 06, 2006
Ericlaw
I find out a bug in DiskClean tool after I installed IE7beta3.
Instead of showing (Downloaded Program Files) at the top of the list, it shows:
(@C:WindowsSystem32occache.dll).
Also the button on the lower right changed, now it says:
(WSsystem32occ)
Anonymous
July 06, 2006
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Anonymous
July 06, 2006
@xino87: The issue with the disk cleanup wizard is known and may be fixed already in later builds, thanks.
Anonymous
July 06, 2006
I've got 2 Windows x64 Professional Machines here where FTP is broken after installing Beta 3. Comes up with the "This FTP Site Cannot Be Viewed in Windows Explorer" message when I try to view a page in Windows Explorer.
Anonymous
July 06, 2006
Talking to others who have upgraded to Build 5456 of Vista, it is clearly better than the Original Beta...
Anonymous
July 06, 2006
Since installing IE7 type an ftp address in Windows Explorer now pops up IE7. How do I stop this and just have the FTP site open in Windows Explorer?
Anonymous
July 06, 2006
I don't have google desktop search, do you know what the other causes are?
Anonymous
July 06, 2006
I've noticed that some <div style="overflow: auto;"> doesn't produce a scrollbar?
Anonymous
July 06, 2006
@EricLaw

Sorry if you answered this, but I diddn't see anything....

In Beta 1 and Beta 2, when opening a folder of links in the favorites center, then opening another folder, the first folder would automatically close. In beta 3, if you click a second, third or fourth etc. folder they all remain open (expanded). Is this a new design? It was much better, in my opinion, the old way.

Now I have to scroll or click the folder I do not want expanded any longer a second time.

I love all the other improvements that have been made, keep up the great work!
Anonymous
July 06, 2006
I just reinstalled XP on my laptop and installed Beta 3 on a fresh XP installation. Still can't get ftp to work.

Running IE7, typing my ftp URL and then "Open ftp site in explorer" gives me the message "The FTP site cannot be viewed in Windows Explorer"

Starting Windows Explorer and trying to Map a drive (or running the "Add network place wizard") gives me "The folder you entered does not appear to be valid. Please choose another."

And I don't know what else to do and I really need FTP working.

Everything else running good for me.
Anonymous
July 06, 2006
@Erik: Yes, I believe leaving the favorites center folders expanded as you open them is intentional.

@Ice Anesthetic: Have you tried starting IE without any addons at all? (Right-click the desktop icon)

@xino87: We checked in the Disk Cleanup fix today.

Thanks, All!
Anonymous
July 06, 2006
Thankyou. The Tabs are now working and I have managed to disable the add-ons that were causing the error via Trial and Elimination.
Anonymous
July 07, 2006
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Anonymous
July 07, 2006
I'm fighting right now with IE 6 because you do not follow W3C standards.
I have definitely switched to FF at home and at work.
You are far, far from Mozilla Foundation.
You can keep your IE 7.
Anonymous
July 07, 2006
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Anonymous
July 07, 2006
I have just installed Beta 3 and like it so far. But I do not seem to be able to find the zoom cursor you speak of.
Anonymous
July 07, 2006
I have just installed Beta 3 and like it so far. But I do not seem to be able to find the zoom cursor you speak of.
Anonymous
July 07, 2006
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Anonymous
July 07, 2006
when i use the read mail button on toolbar it always open up on a new window. can we have a option to open it on a new tab instead.

can you add "New Window" on the context menu when right clicking tab.
Anonymous
July 07, 2006
I upgraded to IE7 beta 3 from IE7 beta 2 on IBM R52, Win XP SP2. Now whenever I am starting my machine I get a error message w.r.t files br_funcs.exe, reg.exe, logmon.exe, xcopy.exe.

The error message is;

‘Windows cannot access the specified device, path or file. You may not have the appropriate permissions to access the item.’

These messages are coming only when I start my machine. If I ignore all the messages by closing them then my machine works fine. IE is also working fine. So I have to revert back to IE7 beta 2.

Earlier EricLaw has suggested the following solution but its still not working.

@Arvind: What do the error messages say? Try the following: Tools | Internet Options | Security. Click the Intranet Icon. Click "Sites". Uncheck "Automatically" and check the three boxes underneath. Click Ok. Restart the computer.

Please help.
Anonymous
July 07, 2006
@EricLaw

Good link on the mousegestures add-on link at:
http://www.codeproject.com/atl/MouseGestures.asp
I also noticed there you offering to contribute code to the project. A great attitude shown by the IE team towards other people contributing to a better IE experience.
Now just hope that the author Ralph Hare wakes up to implement it in his mouse gestures add-on ;-) and puts it on the IE add-ons site as well.
Anonymous
July 07, 2006
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Anonymous
July 07, 2006
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Anonymous
July 08, 2006
EricLaw, I am using Hotmail
Anonymous
July 08, 2006
@EricLaw
Thanks, keep up the good work
Anonymous
July 08, 2006
@Arvind: Did you ensure that the "C:Program FilesIBM ThinkVantageCommonLogger" folder exists? When you open that folder in Explorer, are you able to run the Logmon tool inside it? Are you using an English operating system?
Anonymous
July 08, 2006
@Arvind: Did you ensure that the "C:Program FilesIBM ThinkVantageCommonLogger" folder exists? When you open that folder in Explorer, are you able to run the Logmon tool inside it? Are you using an English operating system?
Anonymous
July 08, 2006
UX improvements are great, but there's just one thing that's niggling me: the scrollbar doesn't extend to the absolute right of the page. There's 1 pixel or so that's not covered at the extreme end and so I can't just move my cursor to the right and scroll up/down without looking at the scrollbar. This behaviour is default on both Firefox and Opera; you might want to look into it.
Anonymous
July 08, 2006
yes "active tab" is more obvious in Beta 3 if you have few tabs open but when you have 9-12 tab open it's completely different.

the arrow tab that scroll the tabs sideway is really awful barely notice it. maybe you should put green or red arrow colors instead of black and make it bold.

you should also make the "drop down arrow" next to the quick tabs available when user turn off the quick tabs it's far better than the left or right arrow that scroll tabs.

When 9 tabs is open.

1. quick tabs sometimes is not changing the thumbnail image to a smaller size making me scroll down just to see the thumbnail and also sometimes its show only 2 columns and a empty space next to it instead of 3 columns

2. when reordering tabs it will make the thumbnail on quicktabs really small even with 2 tabs or 4 tabs or 9 tabs.
Anonymous
July 08, 2006
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Anonymous
July 08, 2006
@Arvind

i just fixed the problem. i had the same problem. it all started with the system migration assistant from lenovo. the smasetup.msi coudnt be found. so i tried to install the newest version. but install shield gave an error to. so i followed (almost) those instruction (i deleted the whole driver folder). then the sma installation worked fine. then i uninstalled ie7 beta 3 from "add and remove programms" and everything worked fine. i bet, if i would install ie7 now again, it would just work fine.

greetings Roland Raimondi
Anonymous
July 09, 2006
I'm using Opera 9.01 build 9518 and Firefox 1.5.0.4. Haven't used Firefox 2.0, so I don't know how the scrollbars work.

I think I sort of found out what the problem was: I wasn't using default themes for Opera and Firefox so the scrollbars weren't the default Windows ones. When I used the default themes, Opera and Firefox did indeed have this problem.

Curiously, Windows Explorer does not display this problem even though, obviously, the scrollbars are the usual Windows type.
Anonymous
July 09, 2006
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Anonymous
July 09, 2006
dddd
Anonymous
July 09, 2006
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Anonymous
July 09, 2006
when selecting links toolbar the menu bar also appear.
Anonymous
July 09, 2006
IEBlog Feeds do not work.
Anonymous
July 09, 2006
@Eric: C:Program FilesIBM ThinkVantageCommonLogger" folder exists. It also has the file logmon.exe in it. When I double click the file it is opening a blank commond window.

Yes all applications & systems in my machine are using English.
Anonymous
July 09, 2006
@Arvind Patel

Did you got an error message from smasetup.msi while installing the IE7? I had the exactly same problem. On my machine (IBM t42) the system migration assistant coudnt find the smasetup.msi while installation. since then i have a lot of error messages that pop up when i start the computer, telling me i dont have any permissions to the paths and exes.

Try to install the smasetup.exe new (download newest version free from lenovo site)! deinstall IE7 and reinstall IE7.
Anonymous
July 09, 2006
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Anonymous
July 10, 2006
awesome beta seems to to working great.
Anonymous
July 10, 2006
awesome beta seems to to working great.
Anonymous
July 10, 2006
Running IE7 BETA 3, trying to access any of my FTP URL's, clicking "page" and then "Open ftp site in explorer" gives me the message "The FTP site cannot be viewed in Windows Explorer".

No matter what I do, I cannot open the ftp sites, even in folder view, as it just opens IE7 with the error message.
Anonymous
July 10, 2006
Disk Cleanup shows incorrect description and button text
for Downloaded Program Files hander, after installing Internet Explorer 7
Beta 3:
http://www.winhelponline.com/articles/53/1
Anonymous
July 10, 2006
@Ramesh: Thanks for the note. The Disk Cleanup fix has been made for the RC1 build.
Anonymous
July 10, 2006
hi! love the new ux... but having trouble with the ctfmon.exe. i followed the instructions on the link you provided and ctfmon.exe 32 and ctfmon.exe x64 are both loading up now? lol
Anonymous
July 10, 2006
@Roland Raimondi: No. It has something to do with IBM ThinkVantage.

The problem is not coming while installation. I have sucessfuly installed IE 7 Beta3. Problem is coming everytime I am starting or restarting my machine.
Anonymous
July 11, 2006
i'm really shocked about how great IE7 got/is. Just go on with that!!!

But why don't you make IE7 to display the ftp page in explorer style itself or add a link directly to the toolbar instead of having to click to lots of menus.

greetings
Anonymous
July 11, 2006
how about the ability to restore tabs when user accidentally close a tab. These feature is already included on Opera 9 and firefox 2.0 beta.
Anonymous
July 12, 2006
I am using windows Xp Prof Edition with Sp2.
I have recently formatted my system , did the necessary installations then
I have upgraded IE 6 to IE 7 beta 3

the problem i am facing is
The main feature of Tabbed browsing is not working

I checked the Tab Setting it was on still tabs were not visible as well as the favourites toolbar was not visible

I turned off the Tab Settings the i could see the favourites toolbar

I tried to work around a lot but didnt work

I uninstalled ,rebooted the system then again installed but didnt work

please help as i dont wish to format the system again for this silly thing
Anonymous
July 12, 2006
I have seen a few comments about the missing Image Toolbar but I havent seen any word on if this feature will be put back or not. As another person said, the image toolbar could be disabled in IE6. If you didnt like it, you could turn it off. In my conversations with people, a lot of them are very upset that it is gone. Sometimes right clicking is not an option on some pages for a variety of reasons. When it is allowed, the image toolbar saved graphics people like myself tons of time because of fewer clicks. Just recently I was given a url that contained over 70 photos of a house and property for sale. I used image toolbar to make quick work of saving them to a burned CD for a realestate agent. What a hassle and time consuming process that would have been to go through the right click process on all of those photos. With more and more people using digital cameras and sharing digital photos on the internet, I feel that having that Image Toolbar with the ability to quickly save, print, and email photos is very important.
Thanks! Brian
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